CCIE SPv5.1 Labs
  • Intro
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    • ISIS
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Prefix Suppression
      • Hello padding
      • Overload Bit
      • LSP size
      • Default metric
      • Hello/Hold Timer
      • Mesh groups
      • Prefix Summarization
      • Default Route Preference
      • ISIS Timers
      • Log Neighbor Changes
      • Troubleshooting 1 - No routes
      • Troubleshooting 2 - Adjacency
      • IPv6 Single Topology
      • IPv6 Single Topology Challenge
      • IPv6 Multi Topology
      • IPv6 Single to Multi Topology
      • Wide Metrics Explained
      • Route Filtering
      • Backdoor Link
      • Non-Optimal Intra-Area routing
      • Multi Area
      • Authentication
      • Conditional ATT Bit
      • Troubleshooting iBGP
      • Troubleshooting TE Tunnel
    • LDP
      • Start
      • Topology
      • LDP and ECMP
      • LDP and Static Routes
      • LDP Timers
      • LDP Authentication
      • LDP Session Protection
      • LDP/IGP Sync (OSPF)
      • LDP/IGP Sync (ISIS)
      • LDP Local Allocation Filtering
      • LDP Conditional Label Advertisement
      • LDP Inbound Label Advertisement Filtering
      • LDP Label Advertisement Filtering Challenge
      • LDP Implicit Withdraw
      • LDP Transport Address Troubleshooting
      • LDP Static Labels
    • MPLS-TE
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Basic TE Tunnel w/ OSPF
      • Basic TE Tunnel w/ ISIS
      • TE Tunnel using Admin Weight
      • TE Tunnel using Link Affinity
      • TE Tunnel with Explicit-Null
      • TE Tunnel with Conditional Attributes
      • RSVP message pacing
      • Reoptimization timer
      • IGP TE Flooding Thresholds
      • CSPF Tiebreakers
      • TE Tunnel Preemption
      • TE Tunnel Soft Preemption
      • Tunneling LDP inside RSVP
      • PE to P TE Tunnel
      • Autoroute Announce Metric (XE)
      • Autoroute Announce Metric (XR)
      • Autoroute Announce Absolute Metric
      • Autoroute Announce Backup Path
      • Forwarding Adjacency
      • Forwarding Adjacency with OSPF
      • TE Tunnels with UCMP
      • Auto-Bandwidth
      • FRR Link Protection (XE, BFD)
      • FRR Link Protection (XE, RSVP Hellos)
      • FRR Node Protection (XR)
      • FRR Path Protection
      • FRR Multiple Backup Tunnels (Node Protection)
      • FRR Multiple Backup Tunnels (Link Protection)
      • FRR Multiple Backup Tunnels (Backwidth/Link Protection)
      • FRR Backup Auto-Tunnels
      • FRR Backup Auto-Tunnels with SRLG
      • Full Mesh Auto-Tunnels
      • Full Mesh Dynamic Auto-Tunnels
      • One-Hop Auto-Tunnels
      • CBTS/PBTS
      • Traditional DS-TE
      • IETF DS-TE with MAM
      • IETF DS-TE with RDM
      • RDM w/ FRR Troubleshooting
      • Per-VRF TE Tunnels
      • Tactical TE Issues
      • Multicast and MPLS-TE
    • SR
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Basic SR with ISIS
      • Basic SR with OSPF
      • SRGB Modifcation
      • SR with ExpNull
      • SR Anycast SID
      • SR Adjacency SID
      • SR LAN Adjacency SID (Walkthrough)
      • SR and RSVP-TE interaction
      • SR Basic Inter-area with ISIS
      • SR Basic Inter-area with OSPF
      • SR Basic Inter-IGP (redistribution)
      • SR Basic Inter-AS using BGP
      • SR BGP Data Center (eBGP)
      • SR BGP Data Center (iBGP)
      • LFA
      • LFA Tiebreakers (ISIS)
      • LFA Tiebreakers (OSPF)
      • Remote LFA
      • RLFA Tiebreakers?
      • TI-LFA
      • Remote LFA or TILFA?
      • TI-LFA Node Protection
      • TI-LFA SRLG Protection
      • TI-LFA Protection Priorities (ISIS)
      • TI-LFA Protection Priorities (OSPF)
      • Microloop Avoidance
      • SR/LDP Interworking
      • SR/LDP SRMS OSPF Inter-Area
      • SR/LDP Design Challenge #1
      • SR/LDP Design Challenge #2
      • Migrate LDP to SR (ISIS)
      • OAM with SR
      • SR-MPLS using IPv6
      • Basic SR-TE with AS
      • Basic SR-TE with AS and ODN
      • SR-TE with AS Primary/Secondary Paths
      • SR-TE Dynamic Policies
      • SR-TE Dynamic Policy with Margin
      • SR-TE Explicit Paths
      • SR-TE Disjoint Planes using Anycast SIDs
      • SR-TE Flex-Algo w/ Latency
      • SR-TE Flex-Algo w/ Affinity
      • SR-TE Disjoint Planes using Flex-Algo
      • SR-TE BSIDs
      • SR-TE RSVP-TE Stitching
      • SR-TE Autoroute Include
      • SR Inter-IGP using PCE
      • SR-TE PCC Features
      • SR-TE PCE Instantiated Policy
      • SR-TE PCE Redundancy
      • SR-TE PCE Redundancy w/ Sync
      • SR-TE Basic BGP EPE
      • SR-TE BGP EPE for Unified MPLS
      • SR-TE Disjoint Paths
      • SR Converged SDN Transport Challenge
      • SR OAM DPM
      • SR OAM Tools
      • Performance-Measurement (Interface Delay)
    • SRv6
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Basic SRv6
      • SRv6 uSID
      • SRv6 uSID w/ EVPN-VPWS and BGP IPv4/IPv6
      • SRv6 uSID w/ SR-TE
      • SRv6 uSID w/ SR-TE Explicit Paths
      • SRv6 uSID w/ L3 IGW
      • SRv6 uSID w/ Dual-Connected PE
      • SRv6 uSID w/ Flex Algo
      • SRv6 uSID - Scale (Pt. 1)
      • SRv6 uSID - Scale (Pt. 2)
      • SRv6 uSID - Scale (Pt. 3) (UPA Walkthrough)
      • SRv6 uSID - Scale (Pt. 4) (Flex Algo)
      • SRv6 uSID w/ TI-LFA
    • Multicast
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Basic PIM-SSM
      • PIM-SSM Static Mapping
      • Basic PIM-SM
      • PIM-SM with Anycast RP
      • PIM-SM with Auto-RP
      • PIM-SM with BSR
      • PIM-SM with BSR for IPv6
      • PIM-BiDir
      • PIM-BiDir for IPv6
      • PIM-BiDir with Phantom RP
      • PIM Security
      • PIM Boundaries with AutoRP
      • PIM Boundaries with BSR
      • PIM-SM IPv6 using Embedded RP
      • PIM SSM Range Note
      • PIM RPF Troubleshooting #1
      • PIM RPF Troubleshooting #2
      • PIM RP Troubleshooting
      • PIM Duplicate Traffic Troubleshooting
      • Using IOS-XR as a Sender/Receiver
      • PIM-SM without Receiver IGMP Joins
      • RP Discovery Methods
      • Basic Interdomain Multicast w/o MSDP
      • Basic Interdomain Multicast w/ MSDP
      • MSDP Filtering
      • MSDP Flood Reduction
      • MSDP Default Peer
      • MSDP RPF Check (IOS-XR)
      • MSDP RPF Check (IOS-XE)
      • Interdomain MBGP Policies
      • PIM Boundaries using MSDP
    • MVPN
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Profile 0
      • Profile 0 with data MDTs
      • Profile 1
      • Profile 1 w/ Redundant Roots
      • Profile 1 with data MDTs
      • Profile 6
      • Profile 7
      • Profile 3
      • Profile 3 with S-PMSI
      • Profile 11
      • Profile 11 with S-PMSI
      • Profile 11 w/ Receiver-only Sites
      • Profile 9 with S-PMSI
      • Profile 12
      • Profile 13
      • UMH (Upstream Multicast Hop) Challenge
      • Profile 13 w/ Configuration Knobs
      • Profile 13 w/ PE RP
      • Profile 12 w/ PE Anycast RP
      • Profile 14 (Partitioned MDT)
      • Profile 14 with Extranet option #1
      • Profile 14 with Extranet option #2
      • Profile 14 w/ IPv6
      • Profile 17
      • Profile 19
      • Profile 21
    • MVPN SR
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Profile 27
      • Profile 27 w/ Constraints
      • Profile 27 w/ FRR
      • Profile 28
      • Profile 28 w/ Constraints and FRR
      • Profile 28 w/ Data MDTs
      • Profile 29
    • VPWS
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Basic VPWS
      • VPWS with Tag Manipulation
      • Redundant VPWS
      • Redundant VPWS (IOS-XR)
      • VPWS with PW interfaces
      • Manual VPWS
      • VPWS with Sequencing
      • Pseudowire Logging
      • VPWS with FAT-PW
      • MS-PS (Pseudowire stitching)
      • VPWS with BGP AD
    • VPLS
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Basic VPLS with LDP
      • VPLS with LDP and BGP
      • VPLS with BGP only
      • Hub and Spoke VPLS
      • Tunnel L2 Protocols over VPLS
      • Basic H-VPLS
      • H-VPLS with BGP
      • H-VPLS with QinQ
      • H-VPLS with Redundancy
      • VPLS with Routing
      • VPLS MAC Protection
      • Basic E-TREE
      • VPLS with LDP/BGP-AD and XRv RR
      • VPLS with BGP and XRv RR
      • VPLS with Storm Control
    • EVPN
      • Start
      • Topology
      • EVPN VPWS
      • EVPN VPWS Multihomed
      • EVPN VPWS Multihomed Single-Active
      • Basic Single-homed EVPN E-LAN
      • EVPN E-LAN Service Label Allocation
      • EVPN E-LAN Ethernet Tag
      • EVPN E-LAN Multihomed
      • EVPN E-LAN on XRv
      • EVPN IRB
      • EVPN-VPWS Multihomed IOS-XR (All-Active)
      • EVPN-VPWS Multihomed IOS-XR (Port-Active)
      • EVPN-VPWS Multihomed IOS-XR (Single-Active)
      • EVPN-VPWS Multihomed IOS-XR (Non-Bundle)
      • PBB-EVPN (Informational)
    • BGP Multi-Homing (XE)
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Lab1 ECMP
      • Lab2 UCMP
      • Lab3 Backup Path
      • Lab4 Shadow Session
      • Lab5 Shadow RR
      • Lab6 RR with Add-Path
      • Lab7 MPLS + Add Path ECMP
      • Lab8 MPLS + Shadow RR
      • Lab9 MPLS + RDs + UCMP
    • BGP Multi-Homing (XR)
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Lab1 ECMP
      • Lab2 UCMP
      • Lab3 Backup Path
      • Lab4 “Shadow Session”
      • Lab5 “Shadow RR”
      • Lab6 RR with Add-Path
      • Lab7 MPLS + Add Path ECMP
      • Lab8 MPLS + “Shadow RR”
      • Lab9 MPLS + RDs + UCMP
      • Lab10 MPLS + Same RD + Add-Path + UCMP
      • Lab11 MPLS + Same RD + Add-Path + Repair Path
    • BGP
      • Start
      • Conditional Advertisement
      • Aggregation and Deaggregation
      • Local AS
      • BGP QoS Policy Propagation
      • Non-Optimal eBGP Routing
      • Multihomed Enterprise Challenge
      • Provider Communities
      • Destination-Based RTBH
      • Destination-Based RTBH (Community-Based)
      • Source-Based RTBH
      • Source-Based RTBH (Community-Based)
      • Multihomed Enterprise Challenge (XRv)
      • Provider Communities (XRv)
      • DMZ Link BW Lab1
      • DMZ Link BW Lab2
      • PIC Edge in the Global Table
      • PIC Edge Troubleshooting
      • PIC Edge for VPNv4
      • AIGP
      • AIGP Translation
      • Cost-Community (iBGP)
      • Cost-Community (confed eBGP)
      • Destination-Based RTBH (VRF Provider-triggered)
      • Destination-Based RTBH (VRF CE-triggered)
      • Source-Based RTBH (VRF Provider-triggered)
      • Flowspec (Global IPv4/6PE)
      • Flowspec (VRF)
      • Flowspec (Global IPv4/6PE w/ Redirect)
      • Flowspec (Global IPv4/6PE w/ Redirect) T-Shoot
      • Flowspec (VRF w/ Redirect)
      • Flowspec (Global IPv4/6PE w/ CE Advertisement)
    • Intra-AS L3VPN
      • Start
      • Partitioned RRs
      • Partitioned RRs with IOS-XR
      • RT Filter
      • Non-Optimal Multi-Homed Routing
      • Troubleshoot #1 (BGP)
      • Troubleshoot #2 (OSPF)
      • Troubleshoot #3 (OSPF)
      • Troubleshoot #4 (OSPF Inter-AS)
      • VRF to Global Internet Access (IOS-XE)
      • VRF to Global Internet Access (IOS-XR)
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      • Inter-AS Option A
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      • Inter-AS Option C
      • Inter-AS Option AB (D)
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      • Inter-AS Option B w/ RT Rewrite
      • Inter-AS Option C w/ RT Rewrite
      • Inter-AS Option A Multi-Homed
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      • Inter-AS Option C Multi-Homed
    • Russo Inter-AS
      • Start
      • Topology
      • Option A L3NNI
      • Option A L2NNI
      • Option A mVPN
      • Option B L3NNI
      • Option B mVPN
      • Option C L3NNI
      • Option C L3NNI w/ L2VPN
      • Option C mVPN
    • BGP RPKI
      • Start
      • RPKI on IOS-XE (Enabling the feature)
      • RPKI on IOS-XE (Validation)
      • RPKI on IOS-XR (Enabling the feature)
      • Enable SSH in Routinator
      • RPKI on IOS-XR (Validation)
      • RPKI on IOS-XR (RPKI Routes)
      • RPKI on IOS-XR (VRF)
      • RPKI iBGP Mesh (No Signaling)
      • RPKI iBGP Mesh (iBGP Signaling)
    • NAT
      • Start
      • Egress PE NAT44
      • NAT44 within an INET VRF
      • Internet Reachability between VRFs
      • CGNAT
      • NAT64 Stateful
      • NAT64 Stateful w/ Static NAT
      • NAT64 Stateless
      • MAP-T BR
    • BFD
      • Start
      • Topology
      • OSPF Hellos
      • ISIS Hellos
      • BGP Keepalives
      • PIM Hellos
      • Basic BFD for all protocols
      • BFD Asymmetric Timers
      • BFD Templates
      • BFD Tshoot #1
      • BFD for Static Routes
      • BFD Multi-Hop
      • BFD for VPNv4 Static Routes
      • BFD for VPNv6 Static Routes
      • BFD for Pseudowires
    • QoS
      • Start
      • QoS on IOS-XE
      • Advanced QoS on IOS-XE Pt. 1
      • Advanced QoS on IOS-XE Pt. 2
      • MPLS QoS Design
      • Notes - QoS on IOS-XR
    • NSO
      • Start
      • Basic NSO Usage
      • Basic NSO Template Service
      • Advanced NSO Template Service
      • Advanced NSO Template Service #2
      • NSO Template vs. Template Service
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      • NSO API using Python #3
      • Using a NETCONF NED
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    • MDT
      • Start
      • MDT Server Setup
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      • Filtering Data using XPATH
      • Finding the correct YANG model
      • Finding the correct YANG model #2
      • Event-Driven MDT
      • Basic Dial-In using gNMI
      • Dial-Out with TLS
      • Dial-In with TLS
      • Dial-In with two-way TLS
    • App-Hosting
      • Start
      • Lab - iperf3 Docker Container
      • Notes - LXC Container
      • Notes - Native Applications
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    • ZTP
      • Notes - Classic ZTP
      • Notes - Secure ZTP
    • L2 Connectivity Notes
      • 802.1ad (Q-in-Q)
      • MST-AG
      • MC-LAG
      • G.8032
    • Ethernet OAM
      • Start
      • Topology
      • CFM
      • y1731
      • Notes - y1564
    • Security
      • Start
      • Notes - Security ACLs
      • Notes - Hybrid ACLs
      • Notes - MPP (IOS-XR)
      • Notes - MPP (IOS-XE)
      • Notes - CoPP (IOS-XE)
      • Notes - LPTS (IOS-XR)
      • Notes - WAN MACsec White Paper
      • Notes - WAN MACsec Config Guide
      • Notes - AAA
      • Notes - uRPF
      • Notes - VTY lines (IOS-XR)
      • Lab - uRPF
      • Lab - MPP
      • Lab - AAA (IOS-XE)
      • Lab - AAA (IOS-XR)
      • Lab - CoPP and LPTS
    • Assurance
      • Start
      • Notes - Syslog on IOS-XE
      • Notes - Syslog on IOS-XR
      • Notes - SNMP Traps
      • Syslog (IOS-XR)
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PIM Hellos

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Load base.ipv4.and.ipv6.cfg

#IOS-XE
config replace flash:base.ipv4.and.ipv6.cfg

#IOS-XR
configure
load bootflash:base.ipv4.and.ipv6.cfg
commit replace

Configure PIM on R5, R6 and XR1 as follows:

  • Use a hello timer of .333/1 on R5 and R6

  • Use a hello timer of 1/3 on XR1

Enable PIM on the following interfaces:

  • R5-R6

  • R6-XR1

Will all adjacencies come up?

Answer

#R5
int gi1.56
 ip pim sparse-mode
 ip pim query-interval 333 msec

#R6
int gi1.56
 ip pim sparse-mode
 ip pim query-interval 333 msec
!
int gi1.619
 ip pim sparse-mode
 ip pim query-interval 333 msec

#XR1
multicast-routing
 address-family ipv4
  interface GigabitEthernet0/0/0/0.619
   enable
!
router pim
 address-family ipv4
  interface GigabitEthernet0/0/0/0.619
   hello-interval 1

Explanation

PIM Hellos are quite simple. The hold time is always 3.5 times the hello-interval. This cannot be changed. The hold time must be a whole number, and appears to be rounded down. (A hold time of 3.5 seconds is rounded down and signaled as 3 seconds).

The PIM hold time can mismatch between neighbors. PIM Hellos also do not have a 2-way adjacency check which almost every other protocol does, making them quite basic.

On IOS-XE, we have the ability to set a subsecond Hello interval. Similar to OSPF and ISIS, the minimum hold time we can send in the Hello is always 1 second. The command on IOS-XE to set the PIM hello interval is, unintuitavely, ip pim query-interval. If we want to send subsecond Hellos but use a hold time higher than 1 second, we can specify this using neighbor-holdtime.

! This sets the hello-interval to 333msec but the hold time to 2 seconds

ip pim query-interval 333 msec neighbor-holdtime 2

Between R5 and R6, they send hellos at 333msec intervals. The hold time they advertise to each other is 1 second. We can see the hold time never reaches below 666 msec.

Between R6 and XR1, their hold times mismatch, but this is not an issue. OSPF is one of the only protocols which requires the timers to match and also does not negotiate the timers. (BGP requires matching timers but negotiates the value).

Interestingly, on XR1, the “expires” field always says “now” for R6, I assume because the time is always some value less than 1 second.

On R6, we can see that XR2 has a hold time of 3 seconds, which never falls below 2 seconds.

Above, we see that R5’s holdtime is apparently 19 minutes which doesn’t make sense. It might be due to the fact that we are not really setting the hello-interval on IOS-XE, but instead the query-interval. In PIMv1, the Query was used to discover neighbors, but in PIMv2 the Hello is used to discover neighbors. Still, it should work correctly. Maybe this is a bug on IOS-XE when you use a sub-second Hello.

If I change R5 to a more sane interval, such as 5 seconds, now R6 properly uses a hold time of 16 seconds.

Summary

At this point we have explored the Hello intervals for the major protocols. OSPF requires values to always match. ISIS and PIM do not require values to match - instead the hold time is reported, allowing for asymmetric intervals between neighbors. BGP negotiates the hold time and sets keepalive to 1/3 the hold time value.

On IOS-XE, for OSPF, ISIS and PIM we can set subsecond intervals. This is not recommend because it is too CPU intensive. On IOS-XR, we can never set subsecond intervals. Instead, it is understood that you would use BFD instead. BFD is both lighter-weight than Hello protocols and allows you to achieve much faster failure detection (subsecond). We’ll explore how to configure and use BFD next.